Pujya Swamiji Maharaj's interview by Zee News correspondent Anil Singhvi ji on Patanjali's upcoming goals after the huge success of Patanjali Foods
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After coming together with the bankrupt indigenous company Ruchi Soya's, the company's name was changed to Patanjali Foods in a very short time and the company's shares were offered for sale at Rs 650 in the space of only six months, made a huge jump of Rs 1400. Along with this, the company has made a market of 50,000 crores. On the future plans of Patanjali, Anil Singhvi, the saint brother of Zee Business, interviewed Ji Maharaj and discussed the future plans of Patanjali, which we are presenting to you.
Anil Singhvi
Today we are talking about such a special company which has history in a short time. It is kept in this sense that there are now only two companies in Nifty above this company, whose market cap is more than 50,000 crores. The name of this company is well known to all of you, it is Jali Food Limited, it has reached the market of 50,000 crores. Now U.P. C. and Hero Motors this D company is such that it is more than 50,000 crores and Patanjali Foods is above the company. It has no doubt from Patanjali full top 200 companies but for investors’ money is made in this company he is awesome. In April this year or a few months ago, the company's offer for sale came. From there the stock has almost more than doubled or around 650 and now it seems to be reaching around Rs 1400. The company was on the verge of closure due to its introduction of Rs.60 per cent. The share price used to be 8 or 10 rupees from the single digit. 1400 rupees from there, although after some adjustments, but what he is doing, Ruchi Soya's advice from Rajli Foods talks on it, we are with the company's promoter Swamiji, you are very welcome, on which first of all Many congratulations to you, your company has completed the journey of 50,000 crores, this is not a small achievement, it is a big deal. From hardly 500-700 crores • Starting the journey to reach 50,000 crores is a big achievement in itself. Honestly give an answer, ever you thought when you started Patanjali Ayurved, started Patanjali Foods. At the time of starting this business, did you think that my company would be worth Rs 50,000 crore?
Pujya Swamiji Maharaj
Anilbhai, first of all, my best wishes for Anant Chaturdashi and Ganesh festival, you said that there was not even a codi here from 4-5 hundred crores, when we came to Haridwar 30 years ago from today, after studying from Gurukul and doing yoga from Himalayas, do your own Gurukul. After completing studies and now you are only 2 companies in Nifty and ahead of us, which I did not even know. But we must know that what is our destination, what is our path? And today there are well-wishers like you, crores of people of this country who gave us strength that we have reached here by following the path of Yoga, Ayurveda, Swadeshi, doing research in Yoga, Ayurveda, serving education and health. I didn't even know what the stock market is. What is the market cap in it, what is the multiple in it, what is the margin in it? You were asking Gautam ji to invest here, so now I can say that the company whose share was launched at Rs 650, now this share is reaching around Rs 1400. Now how this market cap grows we don't know, we know what to do and still we have 5 big targets. The God-like Prime Minister of this country, we gave him the likeness of a national sage that he is carrying his sage culture along with Sanatan culture and his prosperity, he has announced a subsidy of about Rs 14,000 crore in palm plantation.
From palm oil to edible oil, this is the first prime minister to make the country self-reliant, who has to make global for local and local and in that direction Patanjali Foods and Patanjali Ayurved, Patanjali Wellness, Patanjali Medicine, Patanjali Paridhan, Patanjali Transport are progressing.
I can further say that in the coming 5 years, about 5 lakh crore rupees will be contributed by Patanjali in the capital market in the economic prosperity of the nation. Its complete master plan is in front of us and in this Patanjali Foods, whose market cap today has crossed more than 50 thousand crores. First at the feet of God thanks, again to the people of this country, I have given this privilege to a sannyasin to contribute to the prosperity of this country. We also gave health to lakhs of people but now we are also giving prosperity to lakhs and crores of people. Now we have the biggest plan in this direction.
Anil Singhvi
When you acquired Ruchi Soya, people used to think that Swamiji is a yoga guru, what business will he run, how much will he run? You did a turn around of that company. You merged into the food business that Patanjali was. Merger was done in such a ratio that people were stunned. You returned the shareholder by merging that business at almost free cost. Another big thing is usually the problem in loan companies that the money is lying, when will it come to the banks. Your FPO As soon as it arrived, SBI took the check on the next day. Took it to the chairman of the company, take it, we repay your debt, from today the company is debt free. Tell me what is the plan of the company in this regard? First, tell whether your company wants to remain debt free, what is the extension plan to do with your company's earnings?
Pujya Swamiji Maharaj
Our company will be debt free. Whatever we have made debt free earlier and we have to liquidate 6 percent further. By and around the month of December, our cash flow will increase and if we take some money in Patanjali Ayurved, take money in Ruchi Soya Company and we have no other motive, neither we have to buy any ship nor we have to buy any bungalow, You have to fulfill the mourning of any wife and children. We have only one mourning - May your glory be immortal, Mother, we may not live for four days. The ultimate goal of the path is not to ascend the throne, to take a single society. Together, everyone's prosperity, everyone's service, everyone's effort, everyone's development, everyone's effort, all are moving in this direction. And we have realized this that in the coming time, we will have at least the first two-four thousand crore rupees cash flow in our hands and what I said earlier that the plan which we are going to do is about 15 lakh acres of palm plantation and In 5 to 7 years, about 2 thousand crores yearly, consider the return on that which we call Ebitda, in Ebitda 2 thousand crores plus that we are going to get from the plantation and this is a business which will continue for about 40 years . A tree planted once, that tree will last for 40 years. Such a company gets a multiple of 50 times over it.
I am now in the month of November from America and wherever If needed, I will meet investors in Singapore etc. and make my plan. I will tell that this company is not just edible oil company. It will be the world's largest company of palm plantation. Patanjali foods was our dream and we've said this before when my first conference was held in Mumbai, then I had kept this plan.
Second, this palm plantation will be a big task, to make this country self-sufficient in edible oils, about Rs 3 lakh crore, which is the loss of our country's currency, which is de-valuation of our rupee today. Why is it getting devalued? Because our money is running out. This money is going out in many ways, it is going into oil, it is going into petrol, it is going into diesel, I don't know in which way this money is going out in gold and silver. In diamond, we import many things from outside, many FMC. Companies take money from here, so the rupee should not devalue, it was my big dream. One big plan in that direction is of Palm Plantation.
Second, in nutraceuticals, we used vitamin D, B-12, calcium, iron, omega in an open market, 80 percent of the people were deficient. We did a big plan in that that natural 100% plant based organic things were given and now selling in the name of MLM. Now we have also planned company like Herbal Life, Amway, I have trained 10 lakh yoga teachers and more than one lakh people when they attend our class every day with 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 people, there But we will bring awareness among the people about this nutrition and the distribution channel of millions of people will be activated in this month itself.
So we will bring in nutraceuticals people who are 30-30 years old, 35-35 years old working in nutraceuticals and who are working in nutraceuticals companies. Our big nutraceuticals, which is the plan of this whole business, we are taking it forward and Nutrila's Soya Badi, which is known to all, this country is fed by Soya Badi, Banana, that brand was created by Patanjali. Today, about 50 to 60 percent of our market share is with Patanjali in different parts of the country. As far as the food is concerned, the biggest brand of ghee, mustard oil, natural oil and the biggest brand of natural products is that of Patanjali Foods, they will be taken to such a high altitude that they will also be taken on their own. I will be hopeful. Zero cholesterol, zero transfat, zero maida, this is the concept we have come up with in biscuits. So the five which are our plans, if I say in one sentence each, then EBITDA of 2 thousand crores plus will happen in palm plantation within the coming few years. Ebitda of 1 thousand crore plus will be in Foods, Ebitda of about 1500 to 2000 crores will be from our traditional business, further Ebitda of about 500 to 1000 crores has to be done. This is our goal at Nutrella Critical. Similarly, we are bringing various types of snacks and many healthy food options regarding Patanjali biscuits and our goal will be that which is a traditional business. The Edible Oil has to maintain its Ebitda around 5 percent, while the business with Ebitda inside it is about 15 to 20 percent, now it is no longer an Edible Oil Company, it is such a big Foods Company or this country's Patanjali Foods Limited will be the company to set new records of health and prosperity. Look, I am a yogi and a karma yogi by nature, was and will be.
Anil Singhvi
You have valued what Swamiji said, according to you, Patanjali is preparing to do Ebitda of Rs 5 to 6 thousand crores. Your Ebitda which is going on now, the results of the first quarter came out, about 392 crores, 400 crores has been done now i.e. 1600 crores for the year or slightly increased from 2000 crores 2000 crores to 5000 crores, 6000 crores Ebitda i.e. You are giving guidelines to investors that in 5 years your Ebitda or your earnings will become 3 times?
Pujya Swamiji Maharaj
I am not giving the guideline, which we have promised - less promise over delivery, you have taught us this. We taught you yoga, but you taught me this business, so you are also our business guru.
Anil Singhvi
It is not at all a misconception that you Swamiji is very sharp, very smart. I want to tell you because I was not in your press conference but I heard many of our friends there, they saw you, heard and after this press conference the opinion of the people has changed a lot. About You Specially in Fund Management those who see the work of investment, he said that it does not seem like Swamiji from anywhere, only Swamiji is the owner of the vision, the rest are very smart, sharp businessman. Talking about the board room. Which businesses are doing so much business where and where, the entire valuation is at their fingertips. I was saying that there was a change in the beginning, which changed your image very fast.
Pujya Swamiji Maharaj
I am a yogi by nature, a karma yogi - was and will be. And this whole bio product is the result of its fruitfulness. When I make effort for 18-18 hours, in the morning laugh-1 - smile and run - I reach Aastha channel at full 5 o'clock, then India TV. But then I start my journey of yoga and karma yoga. And at 10 o'clock in the night I fall asleep in 2 seconds. I have trained my body, my body in this way. The time I get lost in what I do, I forget everything else. Like I am talking to you about Patanjali Foods right now, nothing is in mind. It's the same thing. that what i have to do? what is my destination? In Yoga, in Ayurveda, in Swadeshi, in Research, in Health, in Education, I am walking with an empty goal that I have to take this country to great heights and in 2047 when the centenary year of the country will be celebrated, in that If at least four or five names of Hindustan are taken, then one name will be of Patanjali that Patanjali has done this, revered Acharya Balkrishna ji, respected Bharat ji, respected Asthana ji our team of karma yogis. The one who had nothing, started the journey from zero and did so much for this country, then we should also do something, that's the passion I want to see in this country.
Anil Singhvi
Swamiji, just now another news has come that duty is also being imposed on the export of non-basmati rice, the rice which is other than Basmati is also being banned. Is there any impact on your company, is there any profit or loss from it?
Pujya Swamiji Maharaj
Look, whatever our food business we sell Basmati, we also sell pieces, we also sell Pora, we have so much in India, it is sold that there is not much need to send out. Yes, further like I said the business plan you have asked, I am not talking about only Patanjali, We have Patanjali Ayurved which is a very big brand and has to change the medical system of the whole world. What people call disease, they are signs of diseases not diseases, and what they call as disease, it is lifestyle disease, it is later chronic disease and then genetic disease, communicable, non-communicable disease has created such a fake world. I say that all these can be cured with yoga, ayurveda and naturopathy. Patanjali is doing the work of giving direction to the whole world in medicine. It is so big that we are going to bring its IPO in front of you someday. Also, Patanjali will come with Ayurveda's IPO, Patanjali Wellness's IPO will come, Patanjali Medicine's IPO will come another, Patanjali's apparel, transportation or our Patanjali organic business. At least 5 companies of Patanjali will come in the process of listing and for the first time in the history of capital market of this country a sannyasin had rung the bell and raised the flag, by going to the stock market. Now some such new records will be set. All this effort is for charity. India is for the mother.
Anil Singhvi
Swamiji, as you are saying that four IPOs are coming, that means 5 companies will be yours listed?
Pujya Swamiji Maharaj
We have also given 250 percent dividend, yes there will be 5 listed companies also. Efforts will be made for us in the coming 5 years and I was telling you that we did not make this empty date free, Patanjali did not merge the food which is empty in name only, business dividend we also got such sick company in a very short time. If it emerges, it does not give dividends quickly, dividends are also given to the people and they are going to give so much more. I am not giving any temptation, but there is an intention to do something good, there is no work other than work. There is only one resolution, from morning till evening, my work should become my worship, this Bharat Mata is my temple and to enhance the beauty of this temple, this country. What can I do to take you to the high peak of prosperity and values I can do it.
Anil Singhvi
Swamiji, by when will these 5 companies be listed, is this the agenda of 5 years or soon?
Pujya Swamiji Maharaj
It is a 5 years agenda, brother, soon you will ask me swami ji which company is getting listed now? But in a year or two, new records will continue to be made, and here too, what was written in our scriptures, the sage pursues abhyudaya and the tendency of altruism and retirement, yoga and karma yoga and lives for the welfare of the people. Is. For the prosperity of the whole world, while remaining akinchan himself, he worries about the healthy prosperity of the whole world, that Patanjali is doing.
Anil Singhvi
Ok swami ji, December is being awaited, you will also have it, the millions of investors who are yours also have them. Your shareholding till now is 82%, you have to bring it up to 75%. 7% is further reduced. The last time IPO came, people were thinking - Hey, IPO is coming, after that the price will decrease, now it is 1000 rupees, I don't know what will happen later, what will not happen, one master stock made it so much 650 rupees kept cheap that everyone's mouth watered. After that it became more than double. Now the environment is also right for you, people's trust is also more than ever. Who will it go before December? How long do you intend to do? And tell me how to do this?
Pujya Swamiji Maharaj
Look Anil bhai, we have never taken him wrong. we said, we will complete our effort. When we came out of the house, people in the village used to say, he will become a Ramkishan Yogi, so when we left the house, people used to tell us our status.
When I became grown up and studied Sanskrit in Gurukul, cannot do anything. It is good, it may be good to respected Modi ji, brother Amit Shah ji, he has increased the dignity of Hindi speakers, otherwise the Prime Minister of the country used to feel inferior even in talking in Hindi. When we used to speak our language, then people felt to us as if we were committing a panaceaable crime. committing any punishable offence. So study in Gurukul, there we have told the status, if we started doing yoga, then said - it will do yoga, we did our work with full heart, and still, apart from karma, apart from effort, here there is effort, chatty, the essence of our culture, so we will soon November We will also go to US in a month and big investors have invited us, now I am going to come again in Mumbai too, we have a very big group of investors, they have an international summit. They have invited me, the people of Motilal Oswal, Ramdev ji Motilal ji also belongs to that company, they told me Swamiji International investors say we have to meet Swami Ramdev, so I said let me come. Earlier I used to come less in Mumbai, this is the city of Maya, hey I said that there should not be any conflict in the city of Yoga Maya, but we will deliver what we have promised with full authenticity and we will deliver more than that. And what we said earlier, with turnaround, professional management, corporate governance with accountability, transparency, with profitability, we will have to suffer, we will bear it. But we will not go back from what we have promised to the people, and till the last breath, Swami Ramdev will be bound in his rule, in dignity, in his word, Raghukul ritual always went, life passed but the word did not go. We have learned this from our forefathers, and will carry it out, Anil ji.
Anil Singhvi
It is expected that the kind of a big coveted one today the landmark has been achieved, your target of having a market cap of 50 thousand crores is to take it to the top of the market up to 5 lakh crores. You make this company the best FMCG company in the world. Our very best wishes Swamiji for listing 5-5 companies, the way Patanjali Foods is progressing, the way your business is growing. Thank you very much for giving us time and once again best wishes to you and the entire Patanjali family.
Pujya Swamiji Maharaj
Many thanks to you too, you keep giving me the opportunity again and again to speak your words and again with a grateful heart to those who have brought us here, and to that Supreme Father, Guru Satta, everyone from my heart. Greetings. Bharat Mata ki Jai, Vande Mataram.
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